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Even though I can't answer for Zumza. But for me if the deadline wasn't reach? I would hope that we all just duke it out in some place like, Smash Online, and be grateful that no one has to smell anyone. But knowing this community? You would probably have people raging and sending hate as they complain about how things weren't done by a certain date.

I guess Joey told you what happen? .-.

Huzzah! Update photo!

Most probably won't even notice this update post since the playground is still in effect. But I felt like posting it anyway.

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And ps: I still have Kentiya's son.

i won too.

you know, i had honestly anticipated this type of response from you. and frankly you didn't exceed my expectations. because after all, this is you we're talking about. but really kira, what is there to understand about a grown man behaving like a petty **** with no life over the internet.

no offense kira, but each time you do this crap. it only makes me and many others lose what little faith we have left in you with anything else you have to say.

No seriously, what are you even saying? No offense, but because of the way you worded your response I had issues understanding your replies to Kira. Are you calling them stupid for even voicing their opinion on the forums? Or does it really bother you that much they decided to post here on this thread.

And I thought it was pretty obvious after what you did and from my last conversation with you. That I want you to leave me the hell alone! But I guess my post wasn't clear enough.

There was no joke to get, honestly. I was just trying to make Joey laugh in one of the most nonsensical ways I could think of while show casing what I made.

First off, if you watch this show growing up only to find out later in life that you were into certain things?

I'm sorry.

Since I already know a certain someone I now is going to ask what episode the women are wrestling in, for 'scientific research'. It's episode 63.

I have always had a strong belief that with any form of art it's better for third parties not to interfere with the creativity of the artist original intent. Although I'll admit, sometimes interference from outside sources does create a better work that does hold up well over time. But in Sailor Moon's case? This was far from the exception. Don't get me wrong. I'm happy that Naoko personally changed her original ending, because getting emotionally attach to characters only for everyone to inevitably die? Not only would have sucked. But it wouldn't have been as emotional or felt as earn as the ending we eventually got for the manga. But a part of me just wishes if they were going to continue the story after the first arc? Changes to certain aspects were never made. Such as Usagi's hair color. For instance. Did you know her hair was originally pink while she was in her civilian form. And Silver while she was Sailor Moon and Serenity. Which is why I take it when Naoko created Sailor Cosmos (Sailor Moon's final form) she gave her those features. But you know? Toei had a perfect opportunity to finally implement this in the reboot for the series. Since Crystal was suppose to be a faithful adaptation of the manga, and they didn't do this.

Also to everyone who complain about the new Eternal movies when they gave Princess Serenity Silver hair. No, Toei didn't screw up. That is how she was originally suppose to look.

You can read more about it here. https://www.tuxedounmasked.com/why-does … pink-hair/

It kind of makes me wonder if Chibiusa would have had Silver hair when she transform too. But I digress.

For the second arc, while Naoko struggle to try to think of a way to continue her popular series.

Toei decided to make the first half of season two filler to give Naoko time to write for the story. Essentially making their adaptation only 28 episodes long if you cut out all the filler. The manga for the second arc may have had only 14 chapters. But what Naoko ultimately created for the series? Even though it's not bad, I still feel to this day is the most messed up arc out of the whole series. Well, if your like me and you over analyze implications of events that take place. Which leads us to: The Black Moon Clan arc. Or what I personally call the start of the Sweet Home Alabama saga.

This is part of why I disliked Sailor Moon if you couldn't guess.

And btw? For those of you who felt the need to point this out. I'm aware it's called a synopsis. But since synopsis and summary pretty much mean the same thing. I just called it a summary. But I guess for the sake of this rant I'll use the word synopsis from now on.

The synopsis for the manga, and now Crystal.

Still wanting to get his hands on the Silver Crystal to rewrite and control the universe. In the far future, another incarnation of Chaos known as Death Phantom, invades and attacks the Earth when the Earth is united again under one government as Usagi and Mamoru now rule together as Neo Queen Serenity and King Endymion. After Death Phantom solely destroys Crystal Tokyo, turning it into a city of crime and ruins. Neo Queen Serenity, finally stops him. However, because of his powers? She was unable to administer the death penalty. As an alternative. She banished him to the farthest planet in the galaxy, Nemesis. Before hundreds of years later, Death Phantom sends his followers to Earth, wreaking havoc in the 30th century. Leaving everybody except for a small Princess and her cat, dead or incapacitated. Alone, scared, unable to defend herself. Believing that this whole mess was her fault because she took the Silver Crystal from it's pedestal without asking. And with a deranged cult known as the Black Moon clan trying to track her down and kill her. Trying to think of a solution, Small Lady steals a time key from the guardian of the underworld. Before committing a taboo, traveling through time, back to the year 1993 in order to find the past version of her Mother.

Since Chaos doesn't really exist in the 90s version until later, and things start to really differentiate from the original source material in this arc.

The synopsis for the 90s adaptation.

In the far future after Usagi and Mamoru were wed and Usagi was acknowledge as the Queen of the Earth after saving the planet from a cold sleep. Her daughter, Small lady, tired of waiting to be just like her Mother. Breaks into the room where the Silver Crystal is stored by using Luna P. And removes it off it's pedestal, holding it without permission. Resulting in it vanishing without a trace. Even though her Mother would know right away how to fix this mess. To avoid getting into trouble. She plays dumb, resulting in the family heirloom the Queen uses to protect the planet going missing at the same time when the Black Moon clan decides to invade and attack the earth, leaving to a number of casualties. In order to protect the sole heir to the throne from meeting the same fate as her parents. An order was given sending the small Princess back to the past for her own protection until the Silver Crystal is located. And on her trip traveling back through time. She concocted a scheme to take the Silver Crystal from the past and replace it with the one that went missing in the future. Not really caring about the ramifications of her actions.

I guess I should state this now before I continue any further. If you like any version of Sailor Moon? That is your personal choice and preference to do so, because you're more then free to do that. However I'm going to have to request from this point forward if you comment below or feel the need to direct message me over this thread. That you respect the fact this is my rant thread. Sure you may not like everything I am saying about a show you enjoy watching. But it's really not your place to grill me over it. And for continuity sake, I will be continuing to use Miss Dream's translated version.

When DIC dub season two of Sailor Moon. They again altered a lot of scenes and surprisingly they only cut one episode. I guess showing a volcano erupting on screen was too much? But surprisingly they didn't try to censor the relationship in the Makaiju arc (aka filler arc between season 1 and 2) with An and Eiru. Those of you who may have seen the show but don't remember what was so bad about this? You find out at the end of that arc when the Hell Tree is giving it's backstory. That Eiru and An were not only overly jealous lovers. But brother and sister since they were born from the same tree pod...

Again, how did this get past the censors in the 90s? Did someone slip a five under the table or something?    

DIC even dub the Sailor Moon R movie that featured a guy named Fiore, who was part of the same race as Eiru and An. That DIC tried really, really hard to get the audience to believe that all he wanted to do was become really good, best bros with Mamoru. But couldn't do it because his girlfriend was just in the way. Before he ultimately decided to keep up the on going theme seen through out the entire series...

You see someone who catches your fancy and you got the power? Just swoop in and claim them for yourself, leaving consent to only be a seven letter word.

I know some of you reading this will feel I just made a really messed up joke. But again, keep in mind. Sailor Moon wasn't intended for four to eight year olds. And When Naoko created Sailor Moon and drew illustrations like this into her comic.

Or even when Toei wrote and animated scenes like this into the show.

I don't believe they ever thought for a moment, years later. That this would be water down by Canada, before being aired around the same time slot as Sesame Street over here in United States.

If your wondering what age group Sailor Moon would be suited for? I'd say around 12 and up. Or depending on how emotionally mature the individual is. Because everyone is different and some of the imagery from the comics and TV series can be a bit much, even for fully grown adults to handle. Like in the first episode of the 90s anime where the monster twists it's neck 180° like an owl. Or the creepy doll scene from the first episode of season four. Where they repeat over and over again for a few minutes. ''The humans don't notice!''

When it came time to air the final 17 episodes of season two on television over here in the west? The series ultimately was deem a failure and was cancelled after 65 episodes. (This happen more then once) Although, looking back on it now? They were probably just panicking behind the scenes trying to figure out a way to censor certain aspects about the show, like this scene.

Which led to the fanbase to panic, leading to hilarious petitions such as this. http://www.saveoursailors.org/

I still don't understand why North American Sailor Moon fans felt going out and buying strawberry pop tarts would change anything. But I'm sure Kellogg's did enjoy the spike in sales.

In the 90s adaptation after the hell tree arc when Mamoru and Usagi finally started dating. Because he had lost his memories for about 10 episodes. And if your wondering? That never happen in the manga. I guess Toei felt their relationship was now too peaceful? So they added unnecessary drama into it by making them break up over one of the dumbest reasons I seen on TV that's only rival in soap operas. And the reason why was, King Endymion from the 30th century. Decided to give the past version of himself and his wife (who was only his gf at the time) prophetic dreams. Leaving both of them to believe if they stay together? Then Usagi will die! And after all the pain and heartache he made both of them suffer through, especially Usagi, because they made it seem like she was going to die from a broken heart if things weren't mended soon.

This kind of annoyed a lot of people.

And King Endymion's excuse when he was finally confronted by them, was he needed to test them to make sure they were able to face the upcoming crisis... Since he was able to meet them face to face and have that talk anyways. Why couldn't he just warn them in advance of what he was doing then make them go through those tests?

I know despite the fact it was left vague. It was kind of hinted at in both the manga and the 90s version that everything that took place within Sailor Moon has already happen, and the future version of them selves from the 30th century, are waiting for the audience watching and the past version of them selves from the 20th century to experience what they already went through. Which would kind of explain why Neo Queen Serenity Already knew her daughter was the one to take the Silver Crystal. Or how in the 90s version, Death Phantom may not have known where Chibiusa was living. But he knew of time and places where she would appear and was able to warn his subordinates of future events.

But still, this is stupid for a number of reasons. Not only did King Endymion risk changing history by making it so his own daughter wasn't even born. But despite the fact 90s adaptation is base off the Manga. If it weren't for the fact Death Phantom's powers were kind of nerf down in that version? Then that test would have been pointless and a waste of time. Because in the Manga, anyone who is unfortunate enough to cross paths with Death Phantom? Is pretty much screwed! Which is how this came to be.

And if you were curious? Yes, King Endymion did reach out to his past self in the Manga. But that was only because of this.

When someone I know sees those pictures, they're going to be like, ''Wait! Tuxedo Mask wasn't useless in that version?''

The next character I am about to talk about gets a lot of hate within the community by certain people. And some of it's kind of justified. While some of it isn't.

I suppose I should state this now before I continue any further. Remember when I mention in my opening post that Sailor Moon has incest? Well I am going to be talking about that now. So if your not for that? Don't click on the spoiler below. That is your only warning!

I guess I might as well talk about the members of the Black Moon Clan or this post will be super short.

The cult known as the black moon clan was completely different from the 90s version in the manga and crystal. In the manga and crystal, the clan was a group of people who were resentful of Neo Queen Serenity's reign, believing those of the white moon to be corrupt and their lifespans were profane. So their goal was to time travel back to the past and create a new history, removing Crystal Tokyo from existence.

While in the 90s anime, the Black Moon Clan's goal was to destroy Crystal Tokyo in the 30th Century. Before Eventually, shifting their attention to destroy the past after chasing after chibiusa when she time travel there.

The four Strange Sisters, Spectre Sisters, (or what ever you what to call them): Koan, Berthier, Calaveras, and Petz.

In the Manga, after seeing the chaos and destruction the Four Sisters were causing. Unsure of who they are and to protect everyone. Without hesitation, both Usagi and Mamoru had no issue eliminating them.

While in the 90s anime, Sure the Sisters motives were the same. And despite all the pain and suffering they were causing to countless people through out the season. It was like Toei wanted you to forget all of that as they tried to get you to feel sympathy for them when each one realize they didn't have a place to go back to By adding in scenes like this as they decided to redeem them...

Yeah, lets all forget the fact the four sisters literally help hurt and kill countless people and stalked and hunted down a small little girl like prey with the intention to kill her. But it's ok because they found 'sisterly love.'

You would think the sisters would thank the Sailor Scouts by telling them useful information about what the cult was planning. Because in the manga all the Clan members were fully aware of what they were doing and why. But I guess because the plot wasn't ready to progress in the 90s version. So they added this excuse.

The Boule Brothers: Chiral and Achiral

Besides just being minor inconveniences that stood in Sailor Moon's way. I don't really have much to say about the twins because when I had first watch the 90s version, I had assume they were just random droids Saphir created (the monster of the week) base off how Toei portrayed them. It wasn't until around the Death Busters arc that I started reading the manga first to see what was going to happen next when I learn they were actual members of the Dark Moon Clan, and the 90s version just forgot to introduce them as such. But still, I kind of forget they were even a thing until I was looking up information from the series when making this thread to double check if I misremembered anything. (It's been a long time since I watched the show or fully read the manga.) At first I kind of felt bad about forgetting they even existed. Until I found out I wasn't alone in this. >.<

Rubeus

In the 90s version, he was the leader of the Four Sister and kind of an manipulative **** too. I recalled this guy being a bigger threat in that version then in the manga as well before being killed when his spaceship blew up with him on it.

While in the manga, he was killed by Wiseman for trying to flee.

Esmeraude

If you wonder why did I remove certain written information feature in that photo of her? Well I don't believe forums staff would have appreciate it that much if I didn't take the time to censor quotes like, ''She has a huge ****'' out of the image.

She was loud, obnoxious, self centered, and smip after Prince Demand. Despite the fact the guy isn't really something worth fighting for. And in that adaptation for some reason she outlived Rubeus. And in that version they even decided to her turn into a dragon before she was defeat. Because I guess... Fan service?

While in the Manga She was eliminated by Mamoru.

Saphir

Just like with the Four strange sisters in the 90s version. They tried to make him more sympathetic then the his more sociopathic counterpart in the Manga. After he realize he was being used by Wiseman in that version? He was killed for wrong think.

In the Manga he was eliminated by his own brother, Prince Demande.

I already know this next part may get censored by forum staff. But I am going to try to keep this as family friendly as possible.

Black lady. Or 'Wicked Lady' if you only seen the censor DIC version.

Why did they feel calling her Black Lady would be offensive since the word 'Black' is just the name of a color? Hell if I know.

In the 90s version Chibiusa ended up becoming her after she was kid nap and brainwashed by DeathPhantom when she stupidly ran off and left the safety of the palace. And when Sailor Moon was about to chase after her to make sure she was alright. Mamoru to stop her and told her this.

Dad of the year everyone!

In the Manga. DeathPhantom takes advantage of the situation after was Small Lady goes off alone after she drops her time key by mistake and gets lost in the void, before he finds her and brainwashes her.

In both the 90s version and manga, she is the only member of the Black Moon Clan to live. However unlike the 90s anime when both Usagi and Mamoru were able to reach out to her and help her break free from DeathPhantom's influence.

In the manga because Mamoru had also fallen under DeathPhantom's influence. Usagi's wasn't able to reach her thanks to how resentful she had become of her. And with no one else left who could help her in her situation, Pluto ended up making the ultimate sacrifice to save her friend, resulting in Small Lady finally awakening her powers and being able to transform.

And lastly, DeathPhantom/Wiseman.

He dead...

I know most of you reading this will be like, ''Wait, that's it?'' Yeah, thanks to lack of sleep and with everything going on in real life since I released part one of this thread, and people questioning why haven't finish part two yet? My last two brain cells are just on strike right now. I don't know, maybe I will fill this section in later if I can think of anything to add.

And this is the part where I guess I am suppose to wine about something from the show I didn't like. And I guess it would have to be the episode, 'Mirror, Mirror on the Wall.' Where Usagi's friends all wanted to kiss Mamoru when he was playing Prince charming in the Snow White play... It's just? Who ever wrote that episode obviously doesn't understand how women and teenage girls work. And seems to have forgotten about a previous conversation that Rei and Usagi had in episode 38.

So what was changed for Crystal?

For Crystal, I was going to talk about the version I originally saw years ago when it first aired on Crunchyroll. Until I realized Toei decided to go back and edit very obvious mistakes from the rush production of Season two that people complain about. But theres still remnants of what was once there within the show. Like when they screw up and gave Neo Queen Serenity Yellow hair.

(I notice these things because I am literally that guy!)

Yeah this was 'fix' mostly when they went back and edited it. But there were still some details on it that looked off even in the edited version. Like in the picture below with the crescent moon on her forehead not matching the tilled of her head.

For season two of Crystal they left out certain things with the side cast that established relationships. Like Motoki knowing about the Sailor guardians. Because I just wish things like this weren't removed in Crystal.

Despite Toei going back and editing season two. They for some reason decided to keep the art style the same as season one to match the uncanny 3D models in the CGI transformation scenes. That to this day, no one really cared for and were disturb those who saw them.

There was very obvious mistakes in this season that were left in. Like Usagi using the wrong weapon in this scene. Because I guess they either weren't paying their animators enough money so they just recycled animation that was used in the previous season. Pure laziness from the production team to even care enough to make sure things like this were correct before it was release to the public. Or the rumors floating around at the time were allegedly true and people who were task with working on Crystal were upset that Naoko finally got her wish with Sailor Moon. So they were trying to sabotage the series in any way possible.

When it should have played out similar to this.

Since I already know a certain someone reading through this thread whose never seen the show is going to ask how they were able to float in the air like that. Well in the manga and the 90s version all of the Sailor Guardians have their own unique set of powers. (And when it seemed to be convenient for the plot in the 90s version.) Each one can super jump, teleport, fly, and even float in the air for a time.

They also changed up certain relationships from the Manga. Like Prince Demand's relationship with Usagi, even changing how he died to be more like the 90s version. And they made Chibiusa more open about her feelings towards Mamoru in Crystal earlier on in the season, just like with the 90s version. Almost as if they thought it was a good idea to combine ideas from the 90s version into Crystal, when literally I didn't see anyone besides the people who were upset the 90s version didn't get a reboot, asking for that...

I did like the fact they changed it to Chibiusa being called down for dinner instead of shingo barging into his sister rooms. Or how Umino wasn't included this scene in Crystal.

No, seriously! Why was Umino at Usagi's house?

And lastly that blouse.

I know my older sister use to mock Usagi's fashion sense, claiming she had the worst wardrobe out of all the girls on the show. (She was mainly talking about the 90s version. But she was right.) But if no one working on Crystal decided to change the design to a more modern sleeveless version,

Part two of this entire thread would have just been me complaining about that blouse and how it hasn't been in style since the 80s. And no teenage girl or young woman would be caught dead wearing that abomination!

And I guess that's it. But I'll leave you with this bonus clip.