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#1 2019-01-03 00:44:00

Andymakeer
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Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

https://www.speedrun.com/everybodyedits

Seriously, speedrun.com is the the tool that literally EVERYONE uses for speedrunning

like, EVERYGAME uses it, it even has an EE page modded by OrangeCrix

Kirby did not even mentioned it

the forum page for the leaderboard is such a horrible idea, it has to be updated manually and most scores are not even verified

seriously, campaign team is ruining its own job


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#2 2019-01-03 01:39:09

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

So true, I suggested earlier  a global leaderboard for each level in time trials, would be so much better. the guy who said "oMg iT wOuLd dIsCoUrAgE pEoPlE" wow learn that the forums discourgaement same as the game discouragement


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#3 2019-01-03 03:59:26, last edited by Minimania (2019-01-03 04:00:29)

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Andymakeer wrote:

Seriously, speedrun.com is the the tool that literally EVERYONE uses for speedrunning

Objectively wrong.

Andymakeer wrote:

Kirby did not even mentioned it | seriously, campaign team is ruining its own job

Andymakeer wrote:

like, EVERYGAME uses it, it even has an EE page modded by OrangeCrix

Until Orangecrix is made part of the campaign curator team, this is entirely irrelevant. EDIT: And incorrect.

Andymakeer wrote:

the forum page for the leaderboard is such a horrible idea, it has to be updated manually and most scores are not even verified

So too does the speedrun.com website, which, let me remind you is modded by OrangeCrix as you said above, who comes around less often than Haley's Comet if you haven't already noticed


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#4 2019-01-03 04:00:20

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Andymakeer wrote:

https://www.speedrun.com/everybodyedits

Seriously, speedrun.com is the the tool that literally EVERYONE uses for speedrunning

like, EVERYGAME uses it, it even has an EE page modded by OrangeCrix

Kirby did not even mentioned it

the forum page for the leaderboard is such a horrible idea, it has to be updated manually and most scores are not even verified

seriously, campaign team is ruining its own job

I do agree with that too. Speedrun.com is great at what it does, and It's much more easier to see the scores in general.

#5 2019-01-03 04:01:12

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Kira wrote:
Andymakeer wrote:

https://www.speedrun.com/everybodyedits

Seriously, speedrun.com is the the tool that literally EVERYONE uses for speedrunning

like, EVERYGAME uses it, it even has an EE page modded by OrangeCrix

Kirby did not even mentioned it

the forum page for the leaderboard is such a horrible idea, it has to be updated manually and most scores are not even verified

seriously, campaign team is ruining its own job

I do agree with that too. Speedrun.com is great at what it does, and It's much more easier to see the scores in general.

So how does the campaign team hope to take control over the EE page?


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#6 2019-01-03 04:02:49

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Crybaby wrote:
Kira wrote:
Andymakeer wrote:

https://www.speedrun.com/everybodyedits

Seriously, speedrun.com is the the tool that literally EVERYONE uses for speedrunning

like, EVERYGAME uses it, it even has an EE page modded by OrangeCrix

Kirby did not even mentioned it

the forum page for the leaderboard is such a horrible idea, it has to be updated manually and most scores are not even verified

seriously, campaign team is ruining its own job

I do agree with that too. Speedrun.com is great at what it does, and It's much more easier to see the scores in general.

So how does the campaign team hope to take control over the EE page?

Why should the Staff be in charge of it? Literally none of the games on there are moderated by their creators.

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#7 2019-01-03 04:03:49

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Kira wrote:
Crybaby wrote:
Kira wrote:
Andymakeer wrote:

https://www.speedrun.com/everybodyedits

Seriously, speedrun.com is the the tool that literally EVERYONE uses for speedrunning

like, EVERYGAME uses it, it even has an EE page modded by OrangeCrix

Kirby did not even mentioned it

the forum page for the leaderboard is such a horrible idea, it has to be updated manually and most scores are not even verified

seriously, campaign team is ruining its own job

I do agree with that too. Speedrun.com is great at what it does, and It's much more easier to see the scores in general.

So how does the campaign team hope to take control over the EE page?

Why should the Staff be in charge of it? Literally none of the games on there are moderated by their creators.

Oh, okay, so then you expect OrangeCrix to just come out of hiding and micromanage a website for a company that doesn't even pay him to do it?


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#8 2019-01-03 04:04:36

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Crybaby wrote:
Kira wrote:
Crybaby wrote:
Kira wrote:
Andymakeer wrote:

https://www.speedrun.com/everybodyedits

Seriously, speedrun.com is the the tool that literally EVERYONE uses for speedrunning

like, EVERYGAME uses it, it even has an EE page modded by OrangeCrix

Kirby did not even mentioned it

the forum page for the leaderboard is such a horrible idea, it has to be updated manually and most scores are not even verified

seriously, campaign team is ruining its own job

I do agree with that too. Speedrun.com is great at what it does, and It's much more easier to see the scores in general.

So how does the campaign team hope to take control over the EE page?

Why should the Staff be in charge of it? Literally none of the games on there are moderated by their creators.

Oh, okay, so then you expect OrangeCrix to just come out of hiding and micromanage a website for a company that doesn't even pay him to do it?

He signed up for it didn't he?

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#9 2019-01-03 04:08:56

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Kira wrote:
Crybaby wrote:
Kira wrote:
Crybaby wrote:
Kira wrote:

I do agree with that too. Speedrun.com is great at what it does, and It's much more easier to see the scores in general.

So how does the campaign team hope to take control over the EE page?

Why should the Staff be in charge of it? Literally none of the games on there are moderated by their creators.

Oh, okay, so then you expect OrangeCrix to just come out of hiding and micromanage a website for a company that doesn't even pay him to do it?

He signed up for it didn't he?

Irrelevant, he isn't required to do anything. There is no binding contract, no work requirement, nothing to be the host of a game on speedrun.com. He can simply refuse to do anything, and he would still have the moral high ground. You cannot require him to work.


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#10 2019-01-03 04:10:49

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Crybaby wrote:
Kira wrote:
Crybaby wrote:
Kira wrote:
Crybaby wrote:

So how does the campaign team hope to take control over the EE page?

Why should the Staff be in charge of it? Literally none of the games on there are moderated by their creators.

Oh, okay, so then you expect OrangeCrix to just come out of hiding and micromanage a website for a company that doesn't even pay him to do it?

He signed up for it didn't he?

Irrelevant, he isn't required to do anything. There is no binding contract, no work requirement, nothing to be the host of a game on speedrun.com. He can simply refuse to do anything, and he would still have the moral high ground. You cannot require him to work.

No one said that. If he signed up for it then he is happy to help updating it. If anything moderators can be added on the speedrun page quite easily by Orangecrix.

#11 2019-01-03 04:52:52

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

speedrun.com isn't automatic. runs still have to be verified. OrangeCrix offered to make me mod on the speedrun.com site, but I figured it would make more sense to just use the forums as A) it's more accessible, and B) speedrun.com isn't organized very well for games that are very IL heavy.

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#12 2019-01-03 11:24:21

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

atleast one pros of using speedrun.com is that the videos of the runs posted there is a bit more accurate to the time that you actually got, regardless of server lag.

speedrun.com isn't organized very well for games that are very IL heavy.

why not just use speedrun.com when it's a speedrun of the whole campaign? (single segment but not counting the loading time)


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#13 2019-01-03 12:36:36

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Vinyl Melody wrote:

atleast one pros of using speedrun.com is that the videos of the runs posted there is a bit more accurate to the time that you actually got, regardless of server lag.

speedrun.com has nothing to do with making times more accurate, recording with OBS and a proper timer (which, again, speedrun.com has nothing to do with) do, which Kirby already highly suggests we do.


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#14 2019-01-03 12:44:42

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Andymakeer wrote:

https://www.speedrun.com/everybodyedits

Seriously, speedrun.com is the the tool that literally EVERYONE uses for speedrunning

like, EVERYGAME uses it, it even has an EE page modded by OrangeCrix

Kirby did not even mentioned it

the forum page for the leaderboard is such a horrible idea, it has to be updated manually and most scores are not even verified

seriously, campaign team is ruining its own job

is showing an SS fo your time not enough?


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#15 2019-01-03 12:45:37

Minimania
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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

peace wrote:
Andymakeer wrote:

https://www.speedrun.com/everybodyedits

Seriously, speedrun.com is the the tool that literally EVERYONE uses for speedrunning

like, EVERYGAME uses it, it even has an EE page modded by OrangeCrix

Kirby did not even mentioned it

the forum page for the leaderboard is such a horrible idea, it has to be updated manually and most scores are not even verified

seriously, campaign team is ruining its own job

is showing an SS fo your time not enough?

No, because anybody can easily fake it


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#16 2019-01-03 12:52:01

peace
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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Crybaby wrote:
peace wrote:
Andymakeer wrote:

https://www.speedrun.com/everybodyedits

Seriously, speedrun.com is the the tool that literally EVERYONE uses for speedrunning

like, EVERYGAME uses it, it even has an EE page modded by OrangeCrix

Kirby did not even mentioned it

the forum page for the leaderboard is such a horrible idea, it has to be updated manually and most scores are not even verified

seriously, campaign team is ruining its own job

is showing an SS fo your time not enough?

No, because anybody can easily fake it

how? they can also wiht a vid proof


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#17 2019-01-03 12:58:00

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

They can edit the videos haha now nothing is verified


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#18 2019-01-03 13:00:13

Minimania
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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

peace wrote:
Crybaby wrote:
peace wrote:
Andymakeer wrote:

https://www.speedrun.com/everybodyedits

Seriously, speedrun.com is the the tool that literally EVERYONE uses for speedrunning

like, EVERYGAME uses it, it even has an EE page modded by OrangeCrix

Kirby did not even mentioned it

the forum page for the leaderboard is such a horrible idea, it has to be updated manually and most scores are not even verified

seriously, campaign team is ruining its own job

is showing an SS fo your time not enough?

No, because anybody can easily fake it

how? they can also wiht a vid proof

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

They can edit the videos haha now nothing is verified

by cheating, duh


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#19 2019-01-03 13:34:04

peace
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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Crybaby wrote:
peace wrote:
Crybaby wrote:
peace wrote:
Andymakeer wrote:

https://www.speedrun.com/everybodyedits

Seriously, speedrun.com is the the tool that literally EVERYONE uses for speedrunning

like, EVERYGAME uses it, it even has an EE page modded by OrangeCrix

Kirby did not even mentioned it

the forum page for the leaderboard is such a horrible idea, it has to be updated manually and most scores are not even verified

seriously, campaign team is ruining its own job

is showing an SS fo your time not enough?

No, because anybody can easily fake it

how? they can also wiht a vid proof

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

They can edit the videos haha now nothing is verified

by cheating, duh

i mean edit some moves in your vid or speed it up and edit the time in the vid


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#20 2019-01-03 14:29:25, last edited by LukeM (2019-01-03 14:33:51)

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Re: Why using Forum Page instead of SpeedRun.com for leaderboard?

Vinyl Melody wrote:

atleast one pros of using speedrun.com is that the videos of the runs posted there is a bit more accurate to the time that you actually got, regardless of server lag.

speedrun.com isn't organized very well for games that are very IL heavy.

why not just use speedrun.com when it's a speedrun of the whole campaign? (single segment but not counting the loading time)

Just FYI the in game timer is WAAAAYYY more accurate that something like OBS.

OBS assumes that the game is constantly running at max frame rate, which for EE really isn't the case XD
The in game timer measures the number of game ticks it takes to complete the level, so if you make the exact same movements at the exact same time, it will always show the exact same time to complete the level.

The only time this isn't the case is when the popup timer and the timer in the bottom right show different times, but if you record the footage you know you haven't cheated so can just use that time anyway.

I put a lot of effort into making sure this timer is as accurate as possible, regardless of ping, FPS drops, etc XD

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