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#376 2022-07-14 14:05:23

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

!votelist

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#377 2022-07-14 18:56:41

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

I'm gonna repeat myself here but this is yet another reminder that this entire situation is immediately resolved as soon as any of myself, era, onjit or althea dies. Anyone who thinks that a flagbearer claim is worth risking is inherently anti-town.

You're right, in the hypothetical where I am a mafia flagbearer, I'd 100% not put myself in the voting pool tomorrow. But that literally changes nothing. You'd just lynch me day 4 instead and althea day 5 - if someone hasn't night killed us already.

This whole idea of "we need to do this lynch now or by the time we lynch him it will be too late" is completely ludicrous.


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#378 2022-07-14 19:00:46

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

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#379 2022-07-14 19:23:56

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

I honestly wish the game setup was clearer about what this game was. If i had known it was about everyone lying through their teeth and ignoring simple mathematics I would't have joined.

I'm going to quit with the images.

Mutantdevle: your arguement is ludicrious, if you are not lynched there is literally 0 motivation for the mafia to kill me or onjit since that would just reveal the lie. Additionally the town only has one role that can kill *once* if that role even exists in the pool if players.

Killing onjit or althea does not prove anything. either of them might be jedters for all we know.

And honestly your claim that I just randomly picked a flagbearer for the town is fairly ridicilous.

None of your proposed solutions have any merrit, this situation only comes down to one thing, whether my claim is correct. Which I know it to be.

I also like how you try to misrepresent any claim to vote you as anti town while that clearly isnt the case.

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#380 2022-07-14 19:48:37

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

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#381 2022-07-14 19:52:38

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

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#382 2022-07-14 19:55:54

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

As much as lynching Mutant is a gamble in the case they are telling the truth and they are flagbearer, not lynching him is also a gamble; we don't get any info and we rely on the possibility of having a vigilante role kill them tonight, which we're not sure even exists. If none of the 4 die tonight (and as Era said, mafia would have no motivation to do that), then we're basically losing two days, because mafia will pick 3 candidates to lynch.


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#383 2022-07-14 21:44:51

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

I find it so incredibly hard to believe that we ever make it to day 4 without

A) One of us 4 dying.

B) Us gaining any other kind of information that can prove who is town.


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#384 2022-07-14 21:49:19

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

2B55B5G TNG wrote:

!vote Mutant

Your constant vote switching isn't what I find sus about you, it's the fact that you don't seem to care about the possibility that this could end the game for you. Not once have you ever mentioned any fear over that possibility to the point where it kinda feels like that doesn't matter to you.


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#385 2022-07-14 21:50:12

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

We can just lynch Onjit or Althea instead, neither of them are claiming to be important roles.


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#386 2022-07-14 21:51:27

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Era wrote:

And honestly your claim that I just randomly picked a flagbearer for the town is fairly ridicilous.

I've never said that you picked me because you either thought/or knew I was a flagbearer. This is 100% a coincidence that's turned out in your favour.


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#387 2022-07-14 21:55:15

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

ZeldaXD wrote:

then we're basically losing two days

The mafia isn't our only threat. There is guaranteed at least 1 third party that poses a genuine threat to us. Any days spent not resolving this situation (aka, just tomorrow) can be spent looking for the pestilence.


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#388 2022-07-14 22:19:50

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

mutantdevle wrote:
N1KF wrote:

Norwee is trying to guilt trip me

And it's working

!vote mutantdevle

And here was me thinking we were friends //ee.failforums.me/img/smilies/sad

Ha ha, there are no friends in Mafia! https://wiki.everybodyedits.com/images/d/d2/011_devil

I might change my vote later though. We'll see.

ZeldaXD wrote:

As much as lynching Mutant is a gamble in the case they are telling the truth and they are flagbearer, not lynching him is also a gamble; we don't get any info and we rely on the possibility of having a vigilante role kill them tonight, which we're not sure even exists. If none of the 4 die tonight (and as Era said, mafia would have no motivation to do that), then we're basically losing two days, because mafia will pick 3 candidates to lynch.

Remember that we can Jail mutantdevle, preventing him from performing an action on Night 2 (or Night 3, considering Oppressor can only act on even-numbered nights).

mutantdevle wrote:

The mafia isn't our only threat. There is guaranteed at least 1 third party that poses a genuine threat to us. Any days spent not resolving this situation (aka, just tomorrow) can be spent looking for the pestilence.

But more nights also gives more time for the Plaguebearer to Infect people, right?

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#389 2022-07-14 22:49:37

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

N1KF wrote:

Remember that we can Jail mutantdevle, preventing him from performing an action on Night 2 (or Night 3, considering Oppressor can only act on even-numbered nights).

I forgot this was an option, if the jailor jails mutantdevle tonight and he is the oppressor then we can lynch one of the four tomorrow, I'm up for it

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#390 2022-07-15 00:53:41

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Oh something I just realized, Era could be a Jester. As soon as Muntant flips then people would go after him. Though maybe Onjit could be too and Era is just executioner? That would explain Onjit's play at the end of the day yesterday.

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#391 2022-07-15 01:16:25

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

If there is a vigilante, they should kill either Era, Onjit or Althea tonight.


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#392 2022-07-15 01:26:01

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

mutantdevle wrote:
2B55B5G TNG wrote:

!vote Mutant

Your constant vote switching isn't what I find sus about you, it's the fact that you don't seem to care about the possibility that this could end the game for you. Not once have you ever mentioned any fear over that possibility to the point where it kinda feels like that doesn't matter to you.

Yeah totally not fearmongering mate…


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#393 2022-07-15 01:27:26

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

I’ll be asleep soon but please don’t make the wrong choice. I will get so sad if Mutant wins this.


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#394 2022-07-15 01:29:45

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Assuming the day started with post #200, we have six and a half hours remaining.

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#395 2022-07-15 01:40:27

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

N1KF wrote:

Assuming the day started with post #200, we have six and a half hours remaining.

Correct


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#396 2022-07-15 01:56:09

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

!votelist

Something tells me neither Onjit nor Althea want to claim their roles.

In my opinion, Althea is the one who should be shot. Onjit could just be jester, so shooting him doesn't actually prove if Mutant is actually Flagbearer, Era is the only investigative claim right now, and shooting them means we lose possibly our only means of night investigation. Sure we can scumread, but having a possible sleuth alive is still good. Shooting Althea confirms if Mutant is Flagbearer, and if Era is telling the truth. Though, this all assumes that we even have a Vigilante to begin with.

I do strongly believe that Mutant is lying about the flagbearer claim though. The possibility of Era and Onjit being mafia is a possibility, but unlikely unless Mutant wants to make the assumption that they started gunning for him because he's a strong player. But even then, there would be better targets for that, such as Norwee who was much more active in Day 1. Both Era and Onjit both being Neutral is the only maybe likely option, and I'm hesitant to even believe that.


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#397 2022-07-15 01:56:38

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

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#398 2022-07-15 01:57:54

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

Wait I meant Coroner claim*

Im not actually sure if he's lying about flagbearer.


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#399 2022-07-15 01:58:37

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

!Vote Mutantdevle


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#400 2022-07-15 02:05:04, last edited by Minimania (2022-07-15 02:10:50)

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Re: Mafia 51 - Secret Weapon [TOWN + GLADIATOR + SURVIVOR WIN!!!]

(#) Mutantdevle - ShadowsEdge, Onjit, N1KF, 2B55B5G TNG, Norwee*
(#) Norwee -
(#) Sleep - Exfabian, Mutantdevle, IrrelevantGaymer, Abiqi, ZeldaXD

@Era: You might want to revote. Your vote was made before the Gladiator claim, which mechanically resets all votes.

There are 14 players currently alive. A minimum of 8 votes are required to put someone under.


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